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#1: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:54 am
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Good morning gentlemens and ladies! I'm planning to upgrade(or downgrade) my ageing l-jet m20b20 for either m42 or m50(non vanos, shoot me). Any workshop that you guys want to recommend(card accepted? budget?). Also pro and cons of these engines or other engines based on your experience. Let the discussion begins Smile

#2: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:06 pm
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if your bugdet is big the go m50,if samll m42,m50 very powerful ,a bit nose heavy,but u dont autocross do you?m42 is a very lively engine,may not be the power source u need but still fun....

#3: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:09 pm
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICsrADnWFKU


hahah i know its rape but man it dosent sound far from an m42......

#4: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:23 am
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f20c!


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#5: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:27 am
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xsjado wrote:
if your bugdet is big the go m50,if samll m42,m50 very powerful ,a bit nose heavy,but u dont autocross do you?m42 is a very lively engine,may not be the power source u need but still fun....

i don't autocross but touge once a while, what sort of budget for m42? 5k?

#6: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:59 am
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plus install i think somewhere there...some adjustments to the headers,to clear the steering coupling,,if u have an m40 even easier coz plug n play the gbox...n starter

#7: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: gizmoz PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:55 pm
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just find m20b25 engine lantai then using back your l-jet wiring...just test drive one guy in jb done this...cost below 2.5k....huhu...

#8: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: boy_mtechLocation: Selangor PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:38 pm
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why dont 2.7 and using l-jet bro? kan lagi best.. already try???

#9: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:49 pm
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gizmoz wrote:
just find m20b25 engine lantai then using back your l-jet wiring...just test drive one guy in jb done this...cost below 2.5k....huhu...

below 2.5k! that's a steal.

#10: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:50 pm
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boy_mtech wrote:
why dont 2.7 and using l-jet bro? kan lagi best.. already try???

what is the "lagi best" bro? bila boleh try Smile

#11: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: chriseunos PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:01 pm
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M52B28..nuff said

#12: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: boy_mtechLocation: Selangor PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:06 am
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Hahahaha... yup.its m52... better then ever.. depend on what engine model u prefer.
m50 is timing chain... m20 still using timing belt.24v & 12v.

#13: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: evilnickwongLocation: TTDI, KL PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:33 am
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Very Happy


#14: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:03 am
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boy_mtech wrote:
Hahahaha... yup.its m52... better then ever.. depend on what engine model u prefer.
m50 is timing chain... m20 still using timing belt.24v & 12v.

m52 is kinda wet dream for my car lol. wonder if anyone knows any competent workshop that offer this monster conversion. time to rob another bank.

#15: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:14 am
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GONNA HAVE TO ROB A BANK FOR THAT PIC ABOVE..

#16: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:38 am
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xsjado wrote:
GONNA HAVE TO ROB A BANK FOR THAT PIC ABOVE..

i second that Smile

#17: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: jeemboLocation: Car_Junk PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:11 am
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M10 318i ekkekeke...enjin ni jer aku mampu pakai

#18: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:18 pm
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jeembo wrote:
M10 318i ekkekeke...enjin ni jer aku mampu pakai

mau swap ngan my m20b20? m10 + siput = f1 legend!

#19: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: jeemboLocation: Car_Junk PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:17 pm
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buleh saja hehehe...aku ada spare 3 set Smile

#20: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:52 pm
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jeembo wrote:
buleh saja hehehe...aku ada spare 3 set Smile

perghh! mmg tokan Laughing

#21: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:44 am
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enjin yg lain2 tu nak buat apa mr jeembo..

#22: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: jeemboLocation: Car_Junk PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:58 am
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sumer utk BAUR aku la spare maaa...m20b20 motronic & l-jet pon ada...M30B35 (M) & (A) pon ada....S14 simpan dlm frame hehehehhehe

#23: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:22 am
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jeembo wrote:
sumer utk BAUR aku la spare maaa...m20b20 motronic & l-jet pon ada...M30B35 (M) & (A) pon ada....S14 simpan dlm frame hehehehhehe

bro jeem, m42 ada?

#24: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: boy_mtechLocation: Selangor PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:01 am
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is that pic taken from r3vlimited nick? am i right?

#25: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:33 pm
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s14 simpan kat rumah aku la...boleh aku pakai.....dream engine tu....4cyl heaven!

#26: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: evilnickwongLocation: TTDI, KL PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:23 pm
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boy_mtech wrote:
is that pic taken from r3vlimited nick? am i right?

Yeap, it's from R3V.
Very Happy

#27: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: Mr_BimmerastaLocation: The Republic Of Penang PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:32 am
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jeembo wrote:
sumer utk BAUR aku la spare maaa...m20b20 motronic & l-jet pon ada...M30B35 (M) & (A) pon ada....S14 simpan dlm frame hehehehhehe

BAUR hang tu hang tatang bagaikan minyak yg penuh nooo.. Laughing

#28: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: lucky_pipLocation: seri kembangan PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:18 pm
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Mr_Bimmerasta wrote:
jeembo wrote:
sumer utk BAUR aku la spare maaa...m20b20 motronic & l-jet pon ada...M30B35 (M) & (A) pon ada....S14 simpan dlm frame hehehehhehe

BAUR hang tu hang tatang bagaikan minyak yg penuh nooo.. Laughing

mst ar bro,br ley maintain kembang kempis idong dia...
xgtu bro jeem?haha

#29: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: fresh_slash_e30detLocation: Seremban PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:31 am
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abg jeembo ada m54b25 x.....hehehe.....aku pun nk cari enjin len gk nih

#30: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: jeemboLocation: Car_Junk PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:47 am
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just show me the money bro. no money no talk hehehehe

#31: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: boy_mtechLocation: Selangor PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:10 am
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hehehehe... dkt sana memang senang pun nak dpt barang² bm ni Smile

#32: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:40 pm
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m44 engine and gearbox, no wiring, 3k, aiyoyoyo

#33: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: fizanLocation: puchong PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:03 pm
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its all about the money....

#34: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: Mr_BimmerastaLocation: The Republic Of Penang PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:43 pm
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fizan wrote:
its all about the money....

bmw = bijak mengurus wang..hehe

#35: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: g0dspeed PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:47 am
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i've been toying with this idea of M30B35.... for quite some time jugak.. i'm still sourcing for the right gb and ratio though....maybe if time & money permit plus no luck in my S42b20.. then i would proceed with the puppy..... dunno laa dare not to say anything yet.....i believe some have successfully converted this puppy into their e30... wud be great if the experience cud be shared

#36: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: jeemboLocation: Car_Junk PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:13 am
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if u wanna M30B35 auto or manual gimme a buzz:)

#37: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:07 pm
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m30 sure can shoehorn into e30....like alpinas...go la godspeed...the ur cams and head can let go to me....muahahahhahahahahaaaaaaa Twisted Evil

#38: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: boy_mtechLocation: Selangor PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:08 am
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hahahaha... e-bay la bro... hahahaha....

#39: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:20 am
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i think i saw sum1 in bmwclubmalaysia selling m30b35 for around 1k+.

#40: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:01 am
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Been running aroung klang valley yesterday and found this m42, lots of em actually. Is this on DISA intake manifold? Will i encounter EWS nightmare(xsajado, how did you cure yours?)?



















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#41: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:40 pm
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by the ecu number yes it is the EWS nightmare, engine number 184s1,no remedy unless u have the ecu,key,key transponder radar,black box,silver box with yellow plastic top...all work hand in hand...ask BMW mech mr Ah wai....he tagged my harness and i put it back together in sarawak..what a nightmare.took six months to install, 3 mnths to swap,3 months to start,coz nobody knew how to wire it..until i brought the harness to Ah wai.

wonder if they have just the head for sale,so i can port it,grind the cams,..dont think they have the e30 m42 intake manifold for sale do they??

#42: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: boy_mtechLocation: Selangor PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:34 am
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6 months??? Shocked
Fuhh!!

#43: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:06 am
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xsjado wrote:
by the ecu number yes it is the EWS nightmare, engine number 184s1,no remedy unless u have the ecu,key,key transponder radar,black box,silver box with yellow plastic top...all work hand in hand...ask BMW mech mr Ah wai....he tagged my harness and i put it back together in sarawak..what a nightmare.took six months to install, 3 mnths to swap,3 months to start,coz nobody knew how to wire it..until i brought the harness to Ah wai.

wonder if they have just the head for sale,so i can port it,grind the cams,..dont think they have the e30 m42 intake manifold for sale do they??

then no choice but to go megasquirt way for ecu (7200 rpm?). halfcut in selayang selling engine only for 1.2k Smile oil pan need to use m40 kan? can i use back my m20b20 getrag 240? how about engine mountings? radiator? fan? Shocked

#44: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: g0dspeed PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:32 am
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jeembo - i prefer manual - i got 1 m30b35..without the gb.. thinking of pairing it with the m50 manual gb... is it possible?... or better to go for the original m30 gb?....

xsjado - even if the m30 idea to be materialized... heheh i dun think i wud to dismantle the m42...heheh... but no worries.. ideas still can be shared.. heheheh...rugi le bro. kalau nak bukak2.. sayang pulak.. heheh..

#45: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:58 am
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godspeed...sharing is caring!!

kura2- rubber n bracket moounting use back,getrag use back,radiator use,oil pan use,header need to cut n re weld....wont clear the steering coupling...

#46: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:03 pm
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xsjado wrote:
godspeed...sharing is caring!!

kura2- rubber n bracket moounting use back,getrag use back,radiator use,oil pan use,header need to cut n re weld....wont clear the steering coupling...

silly question, can use back my m20b20 oil pan? what fan do you use?

#47: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:22 am
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m40 oil pan only 4 cyl...fan clutch m42

#48: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:20 am
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xsjado wrote:
m40 oil pan only 4 cyl...fan clutch m42

ok, added m40 oil pan to my list, btw just ordered megasquirt today, can't wait for it to arrive. Hopefully next week Very Happy

#49: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:59 pm
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wow megasquirt, do update us with tuning..must be a nightmare....base map?

#50: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:59 am
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xsjado wrote:
wow megasquirt, do update us with tuning..must be a nightmare....base map?

i have a base map for m20b20 somewhere in my hard drives, m42 don't have yet, maybe can curi from your car hehehe. nightmare ke? i'm relying on the megasquirt community for tuning and i have my m20b20 for training lol, pray that it won't go kebaboommm.

#51: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:14 pm
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try m42club.com

#52: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: highwaystarLocation: Kola Lompuer PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:41 am
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kabboooommm kura2.... minta minta jadi speedy gonzales:)

#53: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:09 am
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alamak, custom nightmare! 600 terbang Sad

#54: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:42 am
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duty?

#55: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:36 am
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yup, turns out electronic+automotive = 40%. last time i ordered springs kena 15-20% je. Kira halal je la.

#56: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:24 pm
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how much for the hardware?

#57: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:33 pm
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about 1.5k inclusive postage. i ordered MegaSquirt-I Programmable EFI System PCB3.0 - Assembled Unit and 12' MegaSquirt Wiring Harness (MS1 / MS2 Ready)

#58: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:14 pm
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not bad........piggyback right?

#59: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:17 pm
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nope, not piggy back, standalone bebeh!

#60: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:20 pm
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woooohoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!ops mitsken it for smt6...they sky is the limit then,port head,big big cams,big pistion,4 throttle!!!!!!!!!!!

#61: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:32 pm
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xsjado wrote:
woooohoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!ops mitsken it for smt6...they sky is the limit then,port head,big big cams,big pistion,4 throttle!!!!!!!!!!!

or maybe 6 throttle Idea

#62: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: xsjado PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:40 am
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4cyl & 6 throttle?like horse with six legs....

#63: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:06 am
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i meant this Twisted Evil


#64: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: boy_mtechLocation: Selangor PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:14 am
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Broken video bro.Cannot open it

#65: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:24 am
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strange, works fine at my pc. anyway direct link is:

video.google.com/video...8717105027

#66: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: fresh_slash_e30detLocation: Seremban PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:14 am
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mana nk dpt mcm ini....hhhehehehe

#67: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:52 am
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The time have finally arrived for the transplant. My m20b20 head gasket blown yesterday, can still run but keeps overheating and loosing compression. I know where to get M42 but don't know of any workshop that willing to do the swap. Just need them to plonk in the engine, all wiring and tuning I do myself. Any recommendation guys. Btw I stay in ampang.

#68: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: highwaystarLocation: Kola Lompuer PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:13 am
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m42 is a good choice lah, you got megasquirt and i guess you dont need ews.
engine without key is more cheaper than with key Smile

half cut around 4.5k with wire harness and ews, takde kunci less 1k kot. have to check around

#69: Re: Transplant! Transplant! Transplant! Kebaboommmmm! Author: kura2 PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:20 pm
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Engine consider kowtim oredi, now need a workshop to plonk it in. Hmmm, how much does an engine hoist cost?



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