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#1: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: BlackE34, Location: Tropicana, Petaling Jaya

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:16 am
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picked up this article earlier today.. just wanted to share...

"The bigger your car, the more you will have to pay for petrol from May 1. This is because the Government is going to change the way fuel is subsidised. It is planning for a fuel pricing mechanism that will ensure only targeted groups, particularly those from the lower-income, will receive fuel subsidy"

**taken from the star newspaper Friday January 8, 2010**

more info click this link :
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/1/8/nation/5431667&sec=nation

#2: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: xsjado,

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:10 am
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aiyo, fill up with my kelisa and then siphon into my bmw.....

#3: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: highwaystar, Location: Kola Lompuer

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:33 am
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stupid, bigger cc cars already had bigger amount of roadtax BODOH betul.

why don't they just employ lower cc cars to make fuel business to bigger cc cars. Wink

#4: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: jeembo, Location: Car_Junk

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:49 am
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satu lagi projek kerajaan 1Malaysia...

#5: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: boy_mtech, Location: Selangor

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:35 am
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Sape yg undi haritu ni??? Smile

#6: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: Mr_Bimmerasta, Location: The Republic Of Penang

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:24 am
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Howsiow..rakyat diperkuda mcm tu je....!!!!!!!!!!!!

#7: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: aRRrgghh, Location: KeranaMu Malaysia

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:50 am
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Such a stewpid rule - first the NAP. Rakyat say stewpid. Then Kera-Jaan 1Malaysia say Ok cancel for Rakyat. *shhesh*

Another stewpid idea - for Singaporean cars, they can only fill-up 20liter at 1 station. IF you don't want them to get the subsidized benefit, just don't allow lah bodoh! They still can go to another station and pump another 20liter rite?

Btw, whats the difference if you charge more for petrol for bigger cars? They still have to fill up more rite? Ask all the farkin Menteri to fill up and even pay-up all their taxes, touchngo reload, phone bills etc lah. Rakyat didahulukan konon .. now dah di'buduhkan' dah ni ..

..err please excuse my language ya =)

#8: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: faliq3201, Location: TaMAn DeSA TeBRau

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:50 pm
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yayaya you're rite (didahulukan konon) Mad

...aiyoo were dead meat looor....beware statement2x...

#9: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: -berq-,

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:24 am
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very2 stupid rule le..how are they gonna implement this?

Most ppl have both higher cc and lower cc cars. I heard that they gonna use the higher cc cars as the main car for the person. Fark la like that.
Bloody politicians who drive around with ferrari f430s shud pay for their roadtax & fuel oso la like that, not be "subsidised" by the gomen. Always one sided la these guys.

Ppl work like horses to get money just to see it go down the drain & into the pockets of these half-blind wits. How can someone with proper education think like this is beyond me.

#10: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: aRRrgghh, Location: KeranaMu Malaysia

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:02 am
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I have to pay tax here and there. Income tax is not that little. At least I want and demand my voice to be heard. It is not a crime rite? I'm not rioting on the streets or burning something kan? .. so no need ISA for me la haha

#11: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: BlackE34, Location: Tropicana, Petaling Jaya

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:14 am
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the fact is that lower income cant afford to buy new cars because of installment payment. u get old car wit big CC like e34 cash and no need pening2 kepala with instalment payment monthly ...

damn now have to go search moto sikal

#12: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: highwaystar, Location: Kola Lompuer

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:02 pm
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if you use motosikal and at the same time you own big cc cars, they will charge according to your mykard, if mykard already stated 'this MALAYSIAN CITIZEN should not be allowed subsidized fuel' therefore ko bawak motosikal cc rendah camne pun die kira 'unsubsidized' issshhhh

#13: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: faliq3201, Location: TaMAn DeSA TeBRau

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:34 pm
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if mykard already stated 'this MALAYSIAN CITIZEN should not be allowed subsidized fuel' don know what to say, let it happen....lorrr..crazy ho..

#14: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: Mr_Bimmerasta, Location: The Republic Of Penang

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:45 am
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Apa cer???? Rolling Eyes

PUTRAJAYA.Jan 8 – The mechanism for fuel pricing in Malaysia has finally been finalized and controlled under one mechanism, which also takes the high and lower income group people into consideration, according to Finance Trade Minister Tan Sri Anuar Ali.

“From May 1, the fuel will be pegged at RM 3.90 litre for RON97, while RON35 will increase to RM 3.70 per litre. However, the prices of national-made vehicles will be lowered by at least 40 percent. For example, a full-spec family sedan Proton Persona 1.6 litre engine will cost around RM 23,000.00 excluding road tax and insurance. Import tax and excise duty will be revised to only 30 percent, from the current 200 percent. Imported vehicles such as the new Toyota Camry 2.4 litre engine will cost around RM 65,000.00.” he said.

The mechanics has been said to be undertaken by a team of experts from Australia and Canada who were earlier briefed on the issue of subsidy in this country, whereas after consideration by the transport minister, they have signed the constitution that the system will be made on May 1, the day it goes into effect.

Under the new system, there will be a major effect on the existing consumers who have already purchased a vehicle and to those who are in the midst of repaying the loan of their vehicle to their financial institution.

Ahmad Tajuddin said the government might also re-introduce a cash return annually to Malaysians who own a 1,500 cc and below vehicle. The amount have yet to be decided but he assured that the amount will compensate the price of fuel by at least half to eligible Malaysians based on bumi quota.
- SkyNet News Asia

#15: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: bob_sempol, Location: penang-kulim

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:58 pm
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gila ka apa!!!!! Mad

abih mcm mn gan org mcm kita ni gaji sikit aje memeng la kita pakai BMW tp tgk la model apa lain la kalu pakai e60 ka M6 ka....ni yg buat rakyat marah :102::102:lepas ni kita pakat p tt naik :bike: la jawabnya....

#16: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: aRRrgghh, Location: KeranaMu Malaysia

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:13 pm
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apa itu RON35?

#17: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: kura2,

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:58 am
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macam tak betul je news tuh? khabar angin kus kus?

#18: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: Mr_Bimmerasta, Location: The Republic Of Penang

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:29 am
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aRRrgghh wrote:

apa itu RON35?

I think wrong spelling la bro...huhu,it's RON 95...

#19: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: Mr_Bimmerasta, Location: The Republic Of Penang

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:31 am
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kura2 wrote:

macam tak betul je news tuh? khabar angin kus kus?

Angin kus kus ka..angin puting beliung ka..kita wait & see je la bulan 5 nanti...

#20: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: aRRrgghh, Location: KeranaMu Malaysia

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:32 am
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Another source to read. I received via eMail. Btw, who on earth made the call that 2,000cc car owners are not eligible for the subsidy because they are RICH people? That's NOT fact. That's ASS-U-MING!! Something really wrong with these people *Grrr*.

New Mini Cooper S cost more than 100k and still below 2,000cc. So, they are not rich enough? My good fren BlackE34 is driving the E34 525i that only cost around 30k. So he is rich because his car is more than 2,000cc? Where's your brain?

Friday, January 22, 2010
Come May 1st RON95 is RM2.10
By Syed Akbar Ali

That's right. The Government is quite firm on "restructuring" the fuel subsidy on May 1st. Here is how it will work. First the price of RON95 will go up to RM2.10 per litre. Those who are eligible for the subsidies will have to swipe their MyKads at the gas stations and they will still get gas at the "old" price of RM1.80 per litre.

Those who are not eligible will have to pay RM2.10 per litre. This is based on todays world prices for oil. If oil goes up or down between now and May 1st, then the prices will be adjusted.

Eligible means cars below 2000 cc while cars above 2000 cc are not eligible. Between now and May 1st, you must register your MyKad and your car (if it is below 2000cc) somewhere. Details to be announced I think. Those with cars above 2000cc need not bother. You dont get the subsidy anyway.

Petrol stations will be equipped with a hand held device which can read your MyKad so that you can get your subsidy and also to read the amount of petrol you have used. The Government plans to allow only 100 litres of subsidised petrol per car owner per month. Only one car will be allowed for the subsidy.

All gas stations will be linked online (by May 1st) so that your usage of petrol will be monitored. The Government has talked to all the oil companies and they have all agreed.

Diesel will still be subsidised and commercial vehicles will not be affected. Only petrol driven privately owned passenger vehicles are eligible or not eligible for the subsidy.

What this means is that owners of cars below 2000cc will not see any reduction in their living expenses. They will still pay RM1.80 per litre for RON95 like they do today - no change there, except they will now have to flash their MyKads everytime they buy petrol, because they will only get say 100 litres of subsidised petrol a month.

Owners of cars above 2000cc will pay 30 sen more per litre - over 16% increase per litre of petrol.

Presently the Government spends about RM2.0 billion per year on fuel subsidies (petrol, diesel, all petroleum fuel). It is envisaged that this "restructuring the fuel subsidy" - which affects only petrol driven privately owned cars - will save the Government RM1.0 to RM1.5 billion.

Here are more numbers. There are about 8.0 million privately owned cars in Malaysia. Of these, 7.8 million are cars below 2000cc. This means this whole restructuring of the fuel subsidies is only going to affect 200,000 cars of 2000cc and above ? ?

And by making these 200,000 cars (of greater than 2000cc) pay an extra 30 sen per litre, the Government will save RM1.5 billion in subsidies a year ? ? I did some quick arithmetic and it works out to about 300 litres per car per month. But the Government is open for suggestions.

My view is while the 'restructuring' is supposed to help the poor, it does not really. They will still pay RM1.80 per litre (which they are paying now). There is no savings for them. Only the rich (those owning cars of 2000cc and above) will end up paying 30 sen more per litre. So while the poor remain status quo, the rich get penalised.

Even if world oil prices go up and pump prices also move up, the poor will still get subsidised petrol but at the higher market price. The rich will pay more.

I feel that prices of things will still go up. Although commercial vehicles and diesel lorries and trucks and tractors will still get subsidised fuel (thereby canceling the urge to raise prices) there will be some impact on the Consumer Price Index. Pasar malam traders use petrol driven generators to do their business at night. There are other equipment that may run on petrol - which may not enjoy the subsidy.

When the Government gave special diesel subsidies for the inshore fishermen (RM1.00 per litre of diesel), it immediately created huge diesel smugling problems. Then the Customs had to spend millions of Ringgit to buy boats to curb the smugling.

I think this split fuel subsidy structure will also create instant "kampong oil traders" especially if the oil prices move up drastically. People who have not used up their 100 litre per month quota will buy fuel and sell it for a small profit to others who may need it.

It would be fairer if the Government gave everyone a flat 100 litres (or 150 litres or 200 litres as may be more scientifically determined) of subsidised petrol. Above that and you pay market prices. And put in place a program to remove the subsidy altogether.

Its only 30 sen per litre (ok at current prices). The Government can reduce 10 sen per year and in three years, there will be no more need for fuel subsidies. The market will settle down to a new level by itself .

The issue of foreign cars can also be handled in a much easier manner. Singapore allows Malaysian cars 14 days free entry into Singapore. After that you have to pay RM75 per day. We could do the same thing. Charge foreign private cars RM10 tax per day - which goes to the Government or something like that.

The idea to deny the fuel subsidy to foreigners living in Malaysia does not seem fair. Foreigners who are resident here also pay road tax, drive cars bought in the country (paying excise duties etc) and may work here or run businesses here. They are actually part of the economy.

Foreign cars coming in from Singapore or Thailand are different.

The public also would like to see a drastic reduction in the prices of cars. Also a reduction in paying tolls. That would be more meaningful.

In conclusion, this restructuring of the fuel subsidies does NOT save any money for the poor (below 2000cc). The rich (above 2000cc) have to pay more. Both have to swipe their MyKads. They are all voters.
Posted by Syed Akbar Ali at 12:08:00 AM

#21: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: boy_mtech, Location: Selangor

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:45 am
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Yea man.... this is so UNFAIR!!

#22: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: -berq-,

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:59 am
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Newest addition to the original shitty idea:

"The Government’s proposed fuel subsidy scheme based on the engine capacity of vehicles has apparently been shelved."

Sourced from star online:
Fuel subsidy scheme shelved - The Star

#23: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: aRRrgghh, Location: KeranaMu Malaysia

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:36 am
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Should we laugh or cry in relief?

#24: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: Mr_Bimmerasta, Location: The Republic Of Penang

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:11 am
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UNFAIR..! UNFAIR..!! Huh...Mazda RX7 1.3cc compare with BMW E30 325i 2.5cc... H&*Y F%^K^!@ S&!TTT! Come on larr...G hisap darah rakyat!!!

#25: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: aRRrgghh, Location: KeranaMu Malaysia

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:50 am
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weh Rasta hang tak payah risau.. dah cancel pun idea bijak tu heh =P

#26: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: boy_mtech, Location: Selangor

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:13 am
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This is goverment plan guys...
bila dia tarik balik statement tu then rajyat semua akan kata "wah... ****jaan bagusla tarik balik harga minyak..." Then semua akan pakat ramai² mengundi dia hanya kerana sebab issue harga minyak.F*** O**!!

#27: Re: Sharing Is Caring.... :) Author: Mr_Bimmerasta, Location: The Republic Of Penang

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:10 am
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aRRrgghh wrote:

weh Rasta hang tak payah risau.. dah cancel pun idea bijak tu heh =P

Yg nih suma taktik 'baik' depa...sempoy punya strategi...dah masak sgt dah dgn depa nih.....jgn kita terpedaya....lps PRU kompom akan timbul balik idea nih... Evil or Very Mad

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