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#16: Re: fuel ... Author: -berq-,

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:23 pm
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eau-rouge wrote:

minyak...kami akan ikut mu walau setinggi mana pun

minyak sapi? Laughing

#17: Re: fuel ... Author: jackyhong,

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:38 pm
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-berq- wrote:

haha,fak lah & his stupid knights of the round table...after this we tt using video conferencing lah..huahua,no need to get out of our hse..hehe,saving..

& dun forget that the stupid rm625 compensation per yr..bloody idiots
mentang2 diorg xyah byr minyak..

berg,
video conference tt is something new, but hav to bring laptop to the car downstairs and capture picture of the car or engine, so others can see the new moddings, hehe... still can manage!
how about convoy? my house got no teh to tarik, my house kennot smoke, kennot shake hands! sob sob...

#18: Re: fuel ... Author: bedoqstar,

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:38 pm
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tdo lah tdo... Twisted Evil

#19: Re: fuel ... Author: eau-rouge, Location: Ampang

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:14 am
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tidur banyak nih

#20: Re: Fuel Price Hike - Give your piece of mind Author: highwaystar, Location: Kola Lompuer

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:57 am
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i dont understand and how i wish the government can guide us.

1. change lifestyle?
Ages, we spent money to survive, get a home, send children for proper education and strongly believe that the future will be brighter for the family and friends. By all these price increase, i can say change lifestyle meaning to be worst.

Why i said these, income tax money, tobacco and liquor tax, car import duties, dato ship money, tolls tax, movie tax and all everyday tax... WHAT HAPPENED?

Change lifestyle, currently Khairy open an outlet in Pavilion for what? where is the money come from. In the Umno statement, they said gaji kecil average 2,500 for khairy, dont tell me khairy can pay rental of shoplot in pavilion which cost 38,000 monthly....mmmm GOOD MONEY LAUNDERING.

Ask rakyat to change lifestyle.. do government change lifestyle? all the suits that their wearing (some of it designers clothing) will easily cost 14k to 30k each. Baju Melayu or batik shirt will cost around 10k per piece. If u sum up and wear Orlando shirt and kampung baru baju melayu... the expenditure will sum up only around 12k max Per annum instead of 100k that is per menteri's, imagine total up to 55 menteri's and 100 of dato, you do the math.

2. Jangan dengar khabar angin.
i heard rumors that fuel going up... and i tell to myself all these are rumors.. frustrated... rumors actually is true.

3. US faced economical downpour.
That is US, why asian country must suffer too? their economical downpour because they too much invest for firearms and artilleries to WAR. Why we have to follow them? If like this, how MYR will become as a same rate as US dollar? If Malaysian or Asian country face economical problems, do US suffer too? They will sent IMF for loan adalah...

4. angkasawan program, national sports centre in london, RMK9 all these price hike is for the project?

5. Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur.
Whats up for this? Do you know during night time, the whole building glowing and publish Faklah face?

6. Satellite.
Satellite Miasat 1 and Miasat 2, is for information technology, information superhighway, ASTRO. Now ASTRO is also part of daily burden. Last time we dont have to pay for TV and now we cant live without it. AS FOR EDUCATION PURPOSE, I am Okay with this.

7. Multimedia Super Corridor
What is this? Some part in Cyberjaya itself cannot install Streamyx. Students have to select the best location to get one.

mmmm.... I can say Merdeka Malaysia only to Government ruling, but Rakyat Malaysia and the Goverment are they Merdeka?

Thats it for now, have to continue work

#21: Re: Fuel Price Hike - Give your piece of mind Author: a-boo, Location: Petaling Jaya

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:38 am
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Rising Fuel Prices

BY: Tun Dr Mahathir

The price of crude oil has increased by 400 percent in the last three years. It follows that the price of products must increase, sooner or later. In other countries petrol prices had already increased. In the United Kingdom one litre of petrol sells for more than one pound sterling or RM7. In the United States it is about RM5.

That the price in neighbouring countries has gone up is shown by the rush to fill up by Thai and to a lesser extent Singapore vehicles.

The Government has now announced an increase in petrol price by 78 sen to RM2.70 per litre, an increase of more than 40 per cent.

I may be mistaken but there seems to be less vehicles on the road today. But obviously that is not all that will happen. All other consumer goods, services and luxury goods would increase in price.

The cost of living must go up. Put another way there will be inflation and the standard of living will go down.

Obviously our increase in petrol price is far less than in the United Kingdom or the United States. But our per capita income is about one-third of theirs. In purchasing power terms our increase is more than in the UK or the US.

The increase hurts but the pain is greater not just because of the increase percentage-wise is higher than in developed countries but because of the manner the increase is made.

A few days ago the Government decided to ban sale of petrol to foreign cars. It flipped. Now foreign cars can buy again. Flopped.

Knowing that in a few days it was going to raise the price and foreigners would be allowed to buy, why cannot the Government just wait instead of banning and unbanning.

But be that as it may what could the Government have done to lessen the burden on the people that results from the increase in petrol price.

In the first place the Government should not have floated the Ringgit. A floating rate creates uncertainties and we cannot gain anything from the strengthened Ringgit. Certainly the people have not experienced any increase in their purchasing power because of the appreciation in the exchange rate between the US Dollar and the Ringgit.

Actually the Ringgit has increased by about 80 sen (from RM3.80 to RM3.08 to 1 US Dollar) per US Dollar, i.e. by more than 20 per cent. Had the Government retained the fixed rate system and increased the value of the Ringgit, say 10 per cent at a time, the cost of imports, in Ringgit terms can be monitored and reduced by 10 per cent. At 20 per cent appreciation the cost of imports should decrease by 20 per cent. But we know the prices of imported goods or services have not decreased at all. This means we are paying 20 per cent higher for our imports including the raw material and components for our industries.

Since oil prices are fixed in US Dollar, the increase in US Dollar prices of oil should also be mitigated by 20 per cent in Malaysian Ringgit.

But the Government wants to please the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank and decided to float the Ringgit. As a result the strengthening of the Ringgit merely increased our cost of exports without giving our people the benefit of lower cost of imports.

This is not wisdom after the event. I had actually told a Government Minister not to float the Ringgit three years ago. But of course I am not an expert, certainly I know little about the international financial regimes.

I believe the people expect the increase of petrol price. But what they are angry about is the quantum and the suddenness. The Prime Minister was hinting at August but suddenly it came two months earlier, just after the ban on sale of petrol to foreigners.

If the increase had been more gradual, the people would not feel it so much. But of course this means that the Government would have to subsidise, though to a decreasing extent.

Can the Government subsidise? I am the “adviser” to Petronas but I know very little about it beyond what is published in its accounts. What I do know may not be very accurate but should be sufficient for me to draw certain conclusions.

Roughly Malaysia produces 650,000 barrels of crude per day. We consume 400,000 barrels leaving 250,000 barrels to be exported.

Three years ago the selling price of crude was about USD30 per barrel. Today it is USD130 – an increase of USD100. There is hardly any increase in the production cost so that the extra USD100 can be considered as pure profit.

Our 250,000 barrels of export should earn us 250,000 x 100 x 365 x 3 = RM27,375,000,000 (twenty seven billion Ringgit).

But Petronas made a profit of well over RM70 billion, all of which belong to the Government.

By all accounts the Government is flushed with money.

But besides petrol the prices of palm oil, rubber and tin have also increased by about 400 per cent. Plantation companies and banks now earn as much as RM3 billion in profits each. Taxes paid by them must have also increased greatly.

I feel sure that maintaining the subsidy and gradually decreasing it would not hurt the Government finances.

In the medium term ways and means must be found to reduce wasteful consumption and increase income. We may not be able to fix the minimum wage at a high level but certainly we can improve the minimum wage.

Actually our wages are high compared to some of our neighbours. The investors who come here are attracted not by cheap labour but by other factors, among which is the attitude of the Government towards the business community and the investors in particular.

From what I hear business friendliness is wanting in the present Government – so much so that even Malaysians are investing in other countries. There are rumblings about political affiliations influencing decisions. Generally Government politicians are said to be arrogant.

Malaysia is short of manpower. The labour intensive industries are not benefiting Malaysians. Foreign workers are remitting huge sums of money home.

The industrial policy must change so that high tech is promoted in order to give Malaysians higher wages to cope with rising costs of living.

The world is facing economic turmoil due to the depreciation of the US Dollar, the sub-prime loan crisis, rising oil and raw material prices, food shortages and the continued activities of the greedy hedge funds. The possibility of a US recession is real. In a way the US is already in recession. The world economy will be dragged down by it.

Malaysia will be affected by all these problems. I wonder whether the Government is prepared for this.

We cannot avoid all the negative effects but there must be ways to mitigate against them and to lessen the burden that must be borne by all Malaysians. I am sure the Government will not just pass all these problems to the people as the review of oil prices every month seem to suggest.

#22: Re: Fuel Price Hike - Give your piece of mind Author: aRRrgghh, Location: KeranaMu Malaysia

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:24 am
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fer an Oil producing country with this freaking high oil price.. it's nonsense! Only the dumb compares Malaysia with Indo, Singa & Thai. Try compare with Qatar. After conversion it's only about RM0.38 sen per liter!

#23: Re: fuel ... Author: tyk3, Location: Damansara Heights & Jalan Dutamas

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:20 am
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bedoqstar wrote:

tyk3 wrote:

stupid incompetant government la...
they spend so much money on worthless and pointless "vissions"...
untuk rakyat MY ASS!!!

who VOTE!!?? Twisted Evil

tu lah...stupid bureaucratic morons!arrrggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#24: Re: Fuel Price Hike - Give your piece of mind Author: Devil635, Location: Damansara Heights

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:25 am
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i voted for kongsi gelap......cabutz...............

#25: Re: Fuel Price Hike - Give your piece of mind Author: a-boo, Location: Petaling Jaya

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:34 am
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Petrol price in oil producing countries :

UAE– RM1.19/litre
Eygpt– RM1.03/litre
Bahrain– RM0.87/litre
Qatar– RM0.68/litre
Kuwait– RM0.67/litre
Saudi Arabia– RM0.38/litre
Iran– RM0.35/litre
Nigeria– RM0.32/litre
Turkmenistan– RM0.25/litre
Venezuela– RM0.16/litre
MALAYSIA– RM2.70/litre

#26: Re: Fuel Price Hike - Give your piece of mind Author: tyk3, Location: Damansara Heights & Jalan Dutamas

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:39 am
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a-boo wrote:

Petrol price in oil producing countries :

UAE– RM1.19/litre
Eygpt– RM1.03/litre
Bahrain– RM0.87/litre
Qatar– RM0.68/litre
Kuwait– RM0.67/litre
Saudi Arabia– RM0.38/litre
Iran– RM0.35/litre
Nigeria– RM0.32/litre
Turkmenistan– RM0.25/litre
Venezuela– RM0.16/litre
MALAYSIA– RM2.70/litre

and we are supposed to be one of the cheapest???ARE THEY STUPID???

#27: Re: Fuel Price Hike - Give your piece of mind Author: aRRrgghh, Location: KeranaMu Malaysia

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:21 am
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Somebody is sapu-ing the money lah Evil or Very Mad

tyk3 wrote:

a-boo wrote:

and we are supposed to be one of the cheapest???ARE THEY STUPID???

#28: Re: Fuel Price Hike - Give your piece of mind Author: bedoqstar,

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:28 pm
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KENYATAAN MEDIA AHLI PARLIMEN JERLUN DAN EXCO PEMUDA UMNO MALAYSIA YB DATO’ MUKHRIZ MAHATHIR

Saya rasa terkejut dengan pengumuman Perdana Menteri Malaysia YAB Dato’ Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi mengenai kenaikan harga minyak mendadak dan tanpa amaran semalam, sedangkan kenyataan yang dibuat di dalam media massa hanya pada pagi kelmarin memberi amaran bahawa kenaikan tersebut hanya akan berlaku pada bulan Ogos.

Pada pendapat saya, kita mesti mengambil tindakan yang bijak dalam mengimbangi keperluan rakyat dan kos harga minyak yang semakin naik. Kita perlulah mengambil kira pandangan semua pihak dalam mencapai satu formula perlaksanaan yang sesuai buat semua orang; dan bukan secara terburu-buru.

Pada hemat saya, masanya amatlah tidak sesuai untuk tindakan ini diambil dengan cara ini, walaupun kita sedar masalah minyak global harus ditangani diperingkat negara juga..

Saya kira, lebih wajar kenaikan ini dibuat secara berperingkat mengikut jadual yang diumumkan terlebih dahulu, untuk mengelakan ketidak tentuan dan keresahan, seperti mana yang berlaku sekarang ini. Rakyat perlu masa dan peluang untuk menyesuaikan diri dengan kenaikan yang begitu tinggi. Seperti yang kita lihat, keputusan ini telah memberikan kesan yang negatif kepada rakyat. Golongan peniaga dan pedagang pula mengalami ketidak ketentuan yang merumitkan perancangan untuk perbelanjaan perniagaan mereka.

Kerajaan tidak harus mengunakan alasan masalah ini ialah masalah global kerana setiap negara mempunyai situasi dan keadaan berbeza. Apa yang berjaya ditempat lain, tidak semestinya berjaya untuk sistem kita. Kita mempunyai masalah dan cara penyelesaian kita sendiri. Sebagai contohnya, sewaktu Malaysia mengumumkan kawalan matawang dan modal serta Ringgit Malaysia ditetapkan nilai (peg) kepada US Dollar pada 3 September 1998, tindakan itu dikecam pelbagai pihak diperingkat dalam negara dan antarabangsa kerana dianggap tidak konvensyenal. Akhirnya, ianya terbukti berjaya menyelesaikan masalah krisis ekonomi negara, dan Malaysia sebaliknya menerima pelbagai pujian dan pengiktirafan kepada tindakan di’luar kotak’ tersebut.

Saya juga terkilan dengan kenyataan YAB Perdana Menteri sebelum ini menggesa rakyat untuk menyesuaikan diri dengan cara hidup berbeza sebagai reaksi kepada kenaikan harga minyak dan kos sara hidup yang meningkat. Rata rata, rakyat dipendalaman, termasuk kawasan Jerlun yang saya wakili, menyara hidup secara ‘kais pagi makan pagi, kais petang makan petang’. Sejauh mana lagi mereka perlu menyesuaikan diri, setelah meningkatnya kos sara hidup pada tahap terlalu membebankan kepada golongan ini.

*Ikuti temuramah Dato’ Mukhriz dengan Astro Awani mengenai isu pengumuman kenaikan minyak mendadak

*Notakaki yang dikemaskini pada 7.10pm:

Malaysia telah menyaksikan tujuh kali kenaikan harga minyak semenjak 1 Mei 2004 (setelah PM ‘Flip-Flop’ Abdullah Ahmad Badawi di’sah’kan sebagai Perdana Menteri Malaysia setelah berjaya membawa BN memenangi 198 kerusi dari 219 kerusi Dewan Rakyat dalam Pilihnaraya Umum ke XI 21 Mac 2004).

Jadual kenaikan itu adalah:

- Harga runcit petrol ialah RM 1.37 dan diesel RM 0.78 seliter pada 1 Mei 2004

- Harga runcit petrol ialah RM 1.42 dan diesel RM 0.83 seliter pada 1 Okt 2004

- Harga runcit petrol ialah RM 1.42 dan diesel RM 0.88 seliter pada 1 Mac 2005

- Harga runcit petrol ialah RM 1.52 dan diesel RM 1.08 seliter pada 1 Mei 2005

- Harga runcit petrol ialah RM 1.62 dan diesel RM 1.28 seliter pada 31 Jul 2005

- Harga runcit petrol ialah RM 1.92 dan diesel RM 1.58 seliter pada 28 Feb 2006

- Harga runcit petrol ialah RM 2.70 dan diesel RM 2.58 seliter pada 5 Jun 2008

#29: Re: Fuel Price Hike - Give your piece of mind Author: jeembo, Location: Car_Junk

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:03 am
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abis lah nanti...rompakan minyak petrol akan jadi tajuk utama akhbar2 tempatan kakakaka....nak kena carik duit lebih ni sebab harga minyak tak pernah akan turun...aku dah penat merungut sejak faklah memerintah...dan aku takkan merungut lagi sbb aku dah tau akan perancangan masa depan dia...

Perdana-perdana menteri malaysia:
Tunku Abdul Rahman - Bapa Kemerdekaan
Tun Abdul Razak - Bapa Pembangunan
Tun Hussein Onn - Bapa Perpaduan
Tun Mahatir - Bapa Kemodenan
Pak Lah - Bapa Kemusnahan & Pepecahan

#30: Re: Fuel Price Hike - Give your piece of mind Author: orangebmw,

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:15 am
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next election...tukar pemerintah!!dulu sebelum elect..rumors fuel price will be increase if bn win...menteri2 nafi semua tu..so skang ni rumors or not?cuba bayangkan faklah buat mcm ni sebelum election...huh..anda boleh bayangkan la mcm mana...

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