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lagilagi
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:49 pm    Post subject: black smoke Reply with quote

salam smua...saya ada prob nak nanya,hope all u guys can help me..
saya baru beli sebuah e30 318i 89,3 bulan yang lepas..
my question are
1) knapa bila say hi rev engine ,kluar asap hitam?? sedangkan 2 minggu yg lepas sudah CO tuned,spark plug(ngk paltinum) changed,oil filter changed..
2) front tyre camber negative >3degree after done lowering,last month saya press camber at tyre shop,and now it happened again...my frens said,e30 cant do for press camber,others said can...so,how to solve this two question??
plsss help....your contribtion answer is really appreciated...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

wow lagilagi... welcome to malatbimmer community, lagi baik kalo boleh intro dulu sebelum minta tolong ya Smile

Exhaust ada bersih tak? over the years black carbon deposit from engine tends to fill up your exhaust manifold from 89 sampai 2010 mesti built up kan?
so when your hirev mesti habuk karr sampah karr semua terkeluar lorr (kira macam hingus lahh).. anyway black smoke is friendly smoke BUT bukan asap puteh kebiruan dah lahh.

Lowering for any car (most of it conti) memang camber lari kangkang. Camber E30 memang boleh press, tapi NOT effective, you akan press press lagilagi press sampai camber loose pegi tukar dan sama gak.
Saya tak pernah press camber.

Avoid lowering spring and use standard spring.:) hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

Actually instead of avoiding lowering springs, you should use lowering springs, THEN get camber plates. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

evilnickwong wrote:
Actually instead of avoiding lowering springs, you should use lowering springs, THEN get camber plates. Very Happy

camber plates not cheap right?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:17 am    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

im abit skeptical bout the spark plugs, can the 318i uses the platinum spark plugs? i know m20b25 cannot use those platinum plugs

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

highwaystar wrote:
evilnickwong wrote:
Actually instead of avoiding lowering springs, you should use lowering springs, THEN get camber plates. Very Happy

camber plates not cheap right?

Yah not cheap hahahaha. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:19 am    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

oopps,sorry to moderator of not introduce myself....
nway,thanx for the answer,but to mr highwaystar,actually i've change my backbox,not the standard backbox(sori not mentin earlier)hopefully ia bukan masalah besar pada saya..so far,ngk platinum ramai kater boleh pakai for m40..but im not sure if it wiil effect my engine..any effect if press camber again and again???
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

lagilagi wrote:
oopps,sorry to moderator of not introduce myself....
nway,thanx for the answer,but to mr highwaystar,actually i've change my backbox,not the standard backbox(sori not mentin earlier)hopefully ia bukan masalah besar pada saya..so far,ngk platinum ramai kater boleh pakai for m40..but im not sure if it wiil effect my engine..any effect if press camber again and again???
en razak, i think pressing your camber repeatedly will decrease its fatigue life. in simpler terms it will bound to fail faster. unless you really notice the diff. when driving, i suggest u let it be. garang jugak kalau tayar mengangkang ni hehe..
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

lagilagi wrote:
oopps,sorry to moderator of not introduce myself....
nway,thanx for the answer,but to mr highwaystar,actually i've change my backbox,not the standard backbox(sori not mentin earlier)hopefully ia bukan masalah besar pada saya..so far,ngk platinum ramai kater boleh pakai for m40..but im not sure if it wiil effect my engine..any effect if press camber again and again???

jangan press camber lagi dahhh... like i said i never press my camber... just leave as it is, you can post a picture of your car for us to see (kalau boleh) see how bad is the kangkang. If too bad, then you need to find Whole trailing arm set... then again, over the years the camber pun masih boleh lari gak.

Camber is to accommodate heavy weight of the car, maybe your previous owner use to run on heavy weight..:) ------> maybe i'm wrong in this

what springs did you use?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

hello.. lagilagi..

black smoke ? tiuning too rich.. car sure torquey..

camber -3 ? maybe your suspension tower crashed in already or front accident, weak or karat, usually lowered ride is about -2 to -2.3max..
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:30 am    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

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hello.. lagilagi..

black smoke ? tiuning too rich.. car sure torquey..

camber -3 ? maybe your suspension tower crashed in already or front accident, weak or karat, usually lowered ride is about -2 to -2.3max..

wahhh guru has spoken... Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

Yeah man... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

kombat_kanan wrote:
lagilagi wrote:
oopps,sorry to moderator of not introduce myself....
nway,thanx for the answer,but to mr highwaystar,actually i've change my backbox,not the standard backbox(sori not mentin earlier)hopefully ia bukan masalah besar pada saya..so far,ngk platinum ramai kater boleh pakai for m40..but im not sure if it wiil effect my engine..any effect if press camber again and again???
en razak, i think pressing your camber repeatedly will decrease its fatigue life. in simpler terms it will bound to fail faster. unless you really notice the diff. when driving, i suggest u let it be. garang jugak kalau tayar mengangkang ni hehe..

the prob is,only front right wheel yg camber lebih,for the left looks normal...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

highwaystar wrote:
lagilagi wrote:
oopps,sorry to moderator of not introduce myself....
nway,thanx for the answer,but to mr highwaystar,actually i've change my backbox,not the standard backbox(sori not mentin earlier)hopefully ia bukan masalah besar pada saya..so far,ngk platinum ramai kater boleh pakai for m40..but im not sure if it wiil effect my engine..any effect if press camber again and again???

jangan press camber lagi dahhh... like i said i never press my camber... just leave as it is, you can post a picture of your car for us to see (kalau boleh) see how bad is the kangkang. If too bad, then you need to find Whole trailing arm set... then again, over the years the camber pun masih boleh lari gak.

Camber is to accommodate heavy weight of the car, maybe your previous owner use to run on heavy weight..:) ------> maybe i'm wrong in this

what springs did you use?

so far cant post the pic rite now,im outstation...prob more to right front wheel,the camber is too obvious...
currently using H&r spring..
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: black smoke Reply with quote

puddycat wrote:
hello.. lagilagi..

black smoke ? tiuning too rich.. car sure torquey..

camber -3 ? maybe your suspension tower crashed in already or front accident, weak or karat, usually lowered ride is about -2 to -2.3max..

thanx puddycat,others way to reduce black smoke than doing co tuning,plug replacement,change fuel filter???
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