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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: e28 Reply with quote

The E28 was introduced in June of 1981, with a restricted 4 Model range.

Many people thought they looked alot like the model they replaced, the E12. But with slicker lower body styling on slighty shorter wheel base, the shape did look alot more modern than its older brother.




A list of E28 Models and power outputs:



E28 M30 3.5 litre Engine difrences

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

What is a M535i?

Good Question.

This has plagued me for a while, as it appears in the Owners handbook as a specific model yet it can come with all the same ingredients as a conventional 535i.

It can have a Low compression engine with a Auto...not exactly Motorsport is it now?

But it does come with some extra goodies, M-tech Body kit, and a diffrent suspension set-up, Bilsteins shocks all around andstiffer spring rate in the rear, with thicker "Sports" sway-bars. (although the sports Swaybars appear to be on nearly all E28s here in Australia...(see E28 Suspension Guide link above)

In the owners handbook it is there to mention weight and physical size diffrence as a guide IMHO..as you could buy all those options from the options catalogue on purchase.

If there ever was a Real M535i in the E28 range it would have the full euro 218bhp engine, with a 5spd Sports gear box with the Dogleg pattern... 1st is where second is normally and second is above 3rd the same as the E28 M5. These cars do excist, and are fantastic, but it may be difficult to figure out if it is the 218bhp version....look for the lack of a Catlytic converter and that should give you an idea.

Below is what a M535i should look like:



The Alpina B9 & B10 3.5



Alpina created 3 Alpina E-28s from the M-30 engine, The B9, B10 3.5, and B7 Turbo.

The B9 was the first of the Alpina cars based on the e-28. Production started in November 1981 and ended in December 1987. In 1985 the B9 recieved the engine from B6 3,5 and the name was changed to B10 3,5. A total of 577 cars were made.

(the B6 engine is from the E-30 Alpina B6 3.5)

Engine/Gearbox

When the B9 was introduced, the flagship of the 5-series range was 528i. But this engine isn´t based on the 2,8 litre unit, it is based on BMW´s 3,5 litre six. That engine produces 218 bhp in ordinary form but after Alpina has modified the cylinder head, fitted special higher-compression Mahle pistons and a new camshaft and reprogrammed the Motronic system the engine produces 245 bhp. The torque has increased to 320 Nm. The B10 version has the same engine as the B6 3,5. Go to the 3-series section to read more about it. That engine produces 261 bhp without catalyst and 254 with. The B9 has a 5-speed Getrag gearbox. A automatic gearbox was optional.

Suspension/Brakes/Wheels

To handle the greater power, and performance, the B9 has new progressive springs and Bilstein gas-pressure dampers and 16in Alpina wheels with 205/55 tires at front and 225/50 at rear. The brakes are uprated at front with bigger, ventilated discs(284 mm).

Interior/Exterior

Interior changes include Alpina upholstery, Recaro sportseats at front, a leather-covered steering-wheel, a new gearknob and new instruments. To make the car stable at high speeds, Alpina have fitted front and rear spoiler.

Performance

For the B9, Alpina claims a 0-100 km/h time of 6,7 seconds and a top speed of 240 km/h. In Auto Motor und Sport´s test the B9 accelerated from 0-100 km/h in 6,9 seconds, 0-160 km/h in 16,0, 0-200 km/h in 27,3 seconds and had a top speed of 244,9 km/h. For the B10 Alpina claimed a 0-100 km/h time of 6,4 seconds and a top speed of 250 km/h.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

The Alpina B7 Turbo



The B7 Turbo:

This is the second-generation B7 Turbo, introduced in April 1984. Once again had a car with the name B7 Turbo the title of being the fastest 4-door car in the world. The production ended in July 1987 and a total of 236 cars were built. In August 1986 Alpina introduced the B7 Turbo Kat which went out of production in December 1987. Only 42 B7 with catalyst were made.

Engine/Gearbox

The engine is based on BMW´s 3,5 litre unit, which in standard version produces 218 bhp. Alpina have made many changes to the engine such as a reprogrammed Motronic system, a modified cylinder-head, lighter mahle-pistons, a new camshaft, a special exhaust manifold and of course a KKK K27 turbocharger. The engine has higher compression than the old B7 Turbo so Alpina have decreased the turbo boost to 0,7 bar, because they didn´t want the B7 to have more than 300 bhp. That´s exacly what it has, 300 bhp and a torque of 501 Nm. The catalyst-version had 320 bhp and a torque of 509 Nm. The gearbox is a five-speeder from Getrag.

Suspension/Brakes/Wheels

The B7 Turbo has the excellent Alpina-Bilstein suspension with progressive springs and gas-pressure dampers. The brakes are more powerful thanks to Girling discs all-around, ventilated at front. The wheels are 16in high with 205/55 tires at front and 225/50 tires at rear.

Interior/Exterior

The B7 have all the usual Alpina interior changes such as Recaro seats with Alpina upholstery, leather steering-wheel, gear knob, new instruments and so on. The visual changes include a deep front spoiler, rear spoiler and the wheels.

Performance

Depending on what year the car is manufactured Alpina have claimed different 0-100 km/h times. When Auto Motor und Sport tested the B7 Turbo Kat it accelerated from 0-100 km/h in 6,1 seconds, 0-160 km/h in 12,8 seconds and had a top speed of 265 km/h. But when the Swedish magazine Teknikens Värld tested the B7 Turbo it accelerated from 0-100 km/h in an amazing 4,8 seconds, 0-200 km/h in around 17 seconds and had a top speed of 270 km/h.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

Hartge's E28





Competitor to the Alpina B9 and BMW's own M535i. It utilized a 240 bhp 3.5 liter engine, and the performance is similar to the M535i and B9. These cars had packages which were extremely flexible. So long as the documentation is there, then they can be considered Hartge Factory cars. Otherwise the mods are add-ons, and the value isn't as much as a "new" Hartge prepared car.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

The Schintzer S5

[img]A 528i based car, formally catalogued. Schnitzer used a specially tuned version of the 3.5 liter engine, producing 245 bhp. The S5 was a complete conversion includign suspension, brakes, BBS wheels, and other equipment. [/img]



THE E28 M5

(The Ultimate Driving Pleasure)

It has been said that When Tiff Needal from BBC televisions Top Gear (a TV show that reveiws Cars) that he wanted to take one home, Ive watched this footage and he was comparing it to E-30 & E-36 M3s, and E-34 M5s.

And his exact words were: "This is the Bliss"

Also adding: " A wolf in sheeps clothing"

"and in the 80s there was no Traction Control and plenty of tail out powersliding" (which i can attest too)

The E28 M5 just like the M1, M6 and E34 M5 is powered by the Handbuilt Double overhead cam, 24valve 3.5 litre in-line six, producing 286bhp (213KWs) (unable to find a Torque output) and and would have to be one of the greatest engines ever produced in the world.

And also coupled with BMW MotorSports own suspension package of Bilstein Shocks and 16" Wheels, this car would have to be one of the all time greats.

There was just over 2000 of these M5s produced and only 184 with Right Hand Drive went to England, making the RHD version second only to the M1 as the Rarest Motorsport Car.

Not all the M5s had the Mtech body kit either like the Picture above, most of the ones i have seen in photos just look like a Mormal E-28 except for the Seats Badges, Wheels and wheel arch mouldings (see photo below)..........the same can be said now with the current E39 M5 which is only really distingushable by Wheels, Badges and the Double Exhaust.





wah this interior macam kenal la...kekekekke

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

this is good shit...shud be a sticky!!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

yeah...MOD??

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

yeap... sticky it is. thanks for the details mafia... now i am one hell of a proud owner. Thumbs!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

nice nice...thanx for this info bro...
love that last pic...simple but looks evil!!!
''a wolf in sheeps clothing'' huh??!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

get ur car ready fast bro...hehe

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

dun la poison pplz!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

Bro, nice way to racun ppl .. ahaks .. thanks for the info

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

mafia wrote:
get ur car ready fast bro...hehe
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

Oh god can't believe this E28 mad Annae has started his racuning here also. Anyone who wants an e28 don't bother anymore as Mafia is on a mission to buy every e28 in the country.......he he he

P.S : Sell your 54 inch tv lahhh.....*qoute* "Is a 54 inch tv necessary?"

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: e28 Reply with quote

mafia, u should change ur signature to "BUY! BUY! BUY!" Razz

hmmmm.... any defenders for sale? oops, wrong forum...
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